A Little DIY

**Actor** · November 30th, 2002, 10:13 AM

There's a place in Europe that sells reloadable super8 cartridges and a splitter that cuts 16mm film down the middle. It occurs to me that with these items I could buy a 100 ft roll of K-25 in DS8, split it and load it into the super8 carts. It's a way to experience K-25 while it's still around without having to spring for a DS8 camera. The only thing is that the reloadable carts cost $8 each and I'd hate to lose them after one load. Will the labs send them back if you ask? If not will the labs accept the unprocessed film on 50 ft spools?

You could also repackage DS8 Fomapan for the cheapest super8 film going, $3.75/cart w/o procesing. I don't think Foma comes in S8 carts; does it?

On the other hand maybe these reloadable cartridges are not that reliable. Anybody have any experience with them?

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**cameraguy** · November 30th, 2002, 01:37 PM

Dwaynes will return the cartridges if you ask them. They returned a couple of empty sound carts to me will no problems.

Foma is not sold in S8 cartridges unless Plattsburgh ([email protected]) has made up a batch as he said he was thinking of doing.

tfunch24 · November 30th, 2002, 01:41 PM

Will Dwayne's process K-14 DS8 stocks?

Their website just lists Split 8mm, Super 8mm, and 16mm.

Tom

**lightfeat** · November 30th, 2002, 01:47 PM

As I understand it, Super 8 has entirely different sprocket hole size and spacing from double 8mm (16mm). So you wouldn't be able to find any film to put in the reloadable cassettes (unless you know where to source Super8 film on a roll !!!

**Actor** · December 1st, 2002, 06:29 AM

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Posted by tfunch24

Will Dwayne's process K-14 DS8 stocks?

Their website just lists Split 8mm, Super 8mm, and 16mm.
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I don't see why they shouldn't. Both K-25 and K-40 use K-14 processing. If I send it to them in a cartridge it should be business as usual for them. I just want the cartridge back.
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Posted by lightfeat

As I understand it, Super 8 has entirely different sprocket hole size and spacing from double 8mm (16mm). So you wouldn't be able to find any film to put in the reloadable cassettes (unless you know where to source Super8 film on a roll !!!
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Double Super8 is like double 8 in that it is 16mm wide, has to be run through the camera twice and has to be split and spliced after processing. But it has super8 size perforations and spacing. What I am proposing is to split it before exposing it and to load it into these reloadable super8 cartridges.

If you don't split DS8 film then I don't know where you would get super8 film for reloading.

**MovieStuff** · December 1st, 2002, 11:11 AM

Dwaynes will process DS8 with no problem. However, their splitter is set up for regular double 8mm film. As such, the larger 100 foot reel of the DS8 won't fit on the splitter, which was designed for the smaller 25 foot regular double 8mm camera reel. If you get Dewaynes to process your double Super 8, then you'll need to buy your own splitter from someone like John Schwin. That's what I ended up doing for my DS8 Scoopic.

Roger

**cameraguy** · December 1st, 2002, 01:42 PM

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You can still get the 60m Super 8 spools that are made for the special Beaulieu magazine. Its already split so you just have to cut it into 15m sections. If they would sell it without processing then it might be worthwhile.

www.bavaria-cinehome.de/